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Synastry Astrology - Birth Data
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The following results are calculated by the waves of the planets recorded on the bodies of two people at the moments of their birth. Depending on whether the waves have tendencies to attract or repel, they are divided into: Very good luck, Good luck, A little luck, A little misfortune, Misfortune and Great misfortune.
You might think it's strange that both Good luck and Misfortune are listed simultaneously, but just like the screen of your PC or smartphone you're looking at now displays different colors created from a combination of completely different colored dots of red, green, and blue, the waves that produces chemistry between the two people are made from a complex combination of different kinds of Good luck and Misfortune.
Besides, when both Good luck and Misfortune are listed together, both interplay between the two people instead of neutralizing them to zero.
In order to derive overall relationship between the two people from the following items, it is important to read all the items over and over and derive intuitive results from them.
You might think it's strange that both Good luck and Misfortune are listed simultaneously, but just like the screen of your PC or smartphone you're looking at now displays different colors created from a combination of completely different colored dots of red, green, and blue, the waves that produces chemistry between the two people are made from a complex combination of different kinds of Good luck and Misfortune.
Besides, when both Good luck and Misfortune are listed together, both interplay between the two people instead of neutralizing them to zero.
In order to derive overall relationship between the two people from the following items, it is important to read all the items over and over and derive intuitive results from them.
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Good luck
... Linked by universal love
This relationship is filled with a warm atmosphere of caring for the partner and is linked by a universal love rather than a sexual attraction. The two people respect one another, having an emotional rapport, and being willing to please others. Livia Giuggiolli adopts an open-minded attitude to Colin Firth, and Colin Firth accepts it with affection. This relationship is happy and enjoyable, bringing wealth and prosperity, and often found among married couples. Besides, Livia Giuggiolli tends to give Colin Firth some gifts frequently.
Good luck
... Colin Firth perceives Livia Giuggiolli an intelligent and lovely person.
Colin Firth feels that Livia Giuggiolli is an intelligent and lovely person but a little reserved and appreciates Livia Giuggiolli for Livia Giuggiolli's ability to work logical intelligence. Livia Giuggiolli is glad and encouraged about it and will actively exert Livia Giuggiolli's knowledge, trying to be useful for Colin Firth. As there is a smooth flow of one another's minds, both people can understand one another's thoughts without too many words to convey their intentions.
Misfortune
... Livia Giuggiolli increasingly lets the imagination run in the direction of catastrophe.
Livia Giuggiolli finds Colin Firth as an ideal love interest that has nothing to do with reality, and lets the imagination run, and rapidly drawn into Colin Firth's charm. However, what Livia Giuggiolli is seeing is not the real figure of Colin Firth. So Livia Giuggiolli seeks the true self of Colin Firth, but Livia Giuggiolli never meets a real Colin Firth. Meanwhile, Colin Firth who is highly idealized by Livia Giuggiolli begins to distance him/herself from Livia Giuggiolli. In the end, Livia Giuggiolli may find this relationship as an illusion, and the result is likely to be a catastrophe, as the cards on the sand will crumble.
... Linked by universal loveThis relationship is filled with a warm atmosphere of caring for the partner and is linked by a universal love rather than a sexual attraction. The two people respect one another, having an emotional rapport, and being willing to please others. Livia Giuggiolli adopts an open-minded attitude to Colin Firth, and Colin Firth accepts it with affection. This relationship is happy and enjoyable, bringing wealth and prosperity, and often found among married couples. Besides, Livia Giuggiolli tends to give Colin Firth some gifts frequently.
Good luck
... Colin Firth perceives Livia Giuggiolli an intelligent and lovely person.Colin Firth feels that Livia Giuggiolli is an intelligent and lovely person but a little reserved and appreciates Livia Giuggiolli for Livia Giuggiolli's ability to work logical intelligence. Livia Giuggiolli is glad and encouraged about it and will actively exert Livia Giuggiolli's knowledge, trying to be useful for Colin Firth. As there is a smooth flow of one another's minds, both people can understand one another's thoughts without too many words to convey their intentions.
Misfortune
... Livia Giuggiolli increasingly lets the imagination run in the direction of catastrophe.Livia Giuggiolli finds Colin Firth as an ideal love interest that has nothing to do with reality, and lets the imagination run, and rapidly drawn into Colin Firth's charm. However, what Livia Giuggiolli is seeing is not the real figure of Colin Firth. So Livia Giuggiolli seeks the true self of Colin Firth, but Livia Giuggiolli never meets a real Colin Firth. Meanwhile, Colin Firth who is highly idealized by Livia Giuggiolli begins to distance him/herself from Livia Giuggiolli. In the end, Livia Giuggiolli may find this relationship as an illusion, and the result is likely to be a catastrophe, as the cards on the sand will crumble.
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Good luck
... Colin Firth's logic and Livia Giuggiolli's imagination influence one another effectively.
Colin Firth's intellect and Livia Giuggiolli's imagination are facing harmonious directions. Livia Giuggiolli can intuitively feel what Colin Firth logically thinks and can influence Colin Firth's intellect to make more imaginative. On the other hand, Colin Firth can explain what Livia Giuggiolli has in mind logically and analytically, and Colin Firth works on Livia Giuggiolli to make Livia Giuggiolli's fanciful and dreamy ideas more realistic and objective. Both people influence one another effectively and this will be a dreamy and imaginative relationship.
... Colin Firth's logic and Livia Giuggiolli's imagination influence one another effectively.Colin Firth's intellect and Livia Giuggiolli's imagination are facing harmonious directions. Livia Giuggiolli can intuitively feel what Colin Firth logically thinks and can influence Colin Firth's intellect to make more imaginative. On the other hand, Colin Firth can explain what Livia Giuggiolli has in mind logically and analytically, and Colin Firth works on Livia Giuggiolli to make Livia Giuggiolli's fanciful and dreamy ideas more realistic and objective. Both people influence one another effectively and this will be a dreamy and imaginative relationship.
- Sexual Relationship
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- Cooperativeness
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Good luck
... Colin Firth will actively lead Livia Giuggiolli
Each person feels the other person to be physically attractive, and especially Livia Giuggiolli feels more sexual magnetism to Colin Firth. The relationship is full of vitality and buoyancy, and mostly Colin Firth will dominate and lead it actively. Colin Firth's activeness works well on Livia Giuggiolli's feelings, and Livia Giuggiolli feels uplifted and gathers Livia Giuggiolli's courage in Mar's company, while Colin Firth will be soothed and get settled with Livia Giuggiolli's presence. However, as Livia Giuggiolli feels Colin Firth to be assertive and aggressive if Colin Firth develops an overbearing attitude toward Livia Giuggiolli, that will make Livia Giuggiolli uncomfortable.
Good luck ... The relationship has a positive, energetic, exhilarating atmosphere.
This relationship has a positive, energetic, exhilarating atmosphere, and both people is friendly as if they were close friends from childhood. Livia Giuggiolli feels that Colin Firth is generous and tolerant. At the same time, Colin Firth feels Livia Giuggiolli as a bundle of energy, accepting Livia Giuggiolli's everything positively including Livia Giuggiolli's defects, and Colin Firth wants to guide Livia Giuggiolli with Colin Firth's wisdom, delighted as Livia Giuggiolli grows in line with that idea. Colin Firth teaches and supports various things to Livia Giuggiolli, but that can also be done by money. However, Livia Giuggiolli might capitalize on and utilize the Colin Firth's kindness. In this relationship, they open their hearts, don't keep secrets, don't lie, be candid, and express their thoughts directly, so they become cooperative and trustworthy companions.
Misfortune ... They unconsciously cause hostility and conflict with one another.
Colin Firth has an attitude, insisting that Colin Firth is superior to Livia Giuggiolli without any basis. In response, Livia Giuggiolli is damn frustrated because Colin Firth is arrogant to Livia Giuggiolli. Livia Giuggiolli grows hostile to Colin Firth, and unconsciously undermine Colin Firth and weakens Colin Firth's power to destroy Colin Firth's bossy attitude and to dominate Colin Firth, trying to make a fundamental change in Colin Firth's mind. With time, one another's thoughts cause an unconscious emotional confrontation, which eventually surfaces and causes intense strife. Besides, both people are drawn by the other person's strong sexual attraction, but at the same time, they can cause a fight between them.
Misfortune
... Colin Firth feels Livia Giuggiolli dislikes Colin Firth, and Livia Giuggiolli sees Colin Firth selfish.
Colin Firth feels Livia Giuggiolli, whether true or not, have a feeling that Livia Giuggiolli hates Colin Firth, and on the other hand, Livia Giuggiolli senses Colin Firth as selfish. Besides, one person perceives the other person to be someone with whom the person feels restless or doesn't want to stay together. When the two people try to achieve common goals, the direction of their policy differs with one another, and the relationship is filled with disharmonic and strange sense, so conflicts are apt to arise more easily. Colin Firth tends to become so selfish that Colin Firth brushes away and refuses to deal with Livia Giuggiolli's feelings, and in response, Livia Giuggiolli is worried about them excessively, so those issues are likely to cause a rift in the union. It is difficult for them to maintain this relationship without much effort and patience.
Misfortune
... Relationship of conflict and hatred
The two people are drawn to one another by the sexual attraction between them. However, foreign and discordant energies collide with one another by a feud that one person wants to gain an advantage over the other person. As a result, this relationship will be full of conflict and hatred.
Misfortune ... Each person cannot convey approach but can sense a bad mood.
Colin Firth feels sexual attraction to Livia Giuggiolli, but when Colin Firth expresses Colin Firth's some feelings toward Livia Giuggiolli, Livia Giuggiolli somehow cannot understand Colin Firth's true intentions. Meanwhile, even if Livia Giuggiolli aggressively approaches Colin Firth, Colin Firth will not be moved at all. So Colin Firth's emotions and feelings somehow never go together well with Livia Giuggiolli's vitality and aggressiveness. By sensing Colin Firth's bad mood, Livia Giuggiolli may be disgusting and resentful. Over time, both people may develop a feeling of repulsion to the other person, and this relationship may be filled with dissatisfaction, which doesn't at least contribute to last the relationship.
Great misfortune
... They are Bored by a similar partner.
Both person's basic humanity and ways to deal with things are superficially similar, and they somehow feel that they resemble one another, having a false feeling that two people are compatible. Besides, they can perceive what the other person is thinking, so they can build a good but superficial relationship right away. However, it is a superficial similarity, not necessarily getting to like one another. With time, the exhilaration has gone, and the feeling of boredom is dominating, which acts negatively on lasting relationships. Even if there are astrological elements in other spheres which makes the two people fall in love or be sexually attracted with one another, the feeling of intimacy like close friends or siblings will dominates and nagetes sexy feelings. Over time, the rivalry about being approved by the people around them will arise unconsciously, and they become competitive by seeing the other person as a rival.
... Colin Firth will actively lead Livia GiuggiolliEach person feels the other person to be physically attractive, and especially Livia Giuggiolli feels more sexual magnetism to Colin Firth. The relationship is full of vitality and buoyancy, and mostly Colin Firth will dominate and lead it actively. Colin Firth's activeness works well on Livia Giuggiolli's feelings, and Livia Giuggiolli feels uplifted and gathers Livia Giuggiolli's courage in Mar's company, while Colin Firth will be soothed and get settled with Livia Giuggiolli's presence. However, as Livia Giuggiolli feels Colin Firth to be assertive and aggressive if Colin Firth develops an overbearing attitude toward Livia Giuggiolli, that will make Livia Giuggiolli uncomfortable.
Good luck
... The relationship has a positive, energetic, exhilarating atmosphere.This relationship has a positive, energetic, exhilarating atmosphere, and both people is friendly as if they were close friends from childhood. Livia Giuggiolli feels that Colin Firth is generous and tolerant. At the same time, Colin Firth feels Livia Giuggiolli as a bundle of energy, accepting Livia Giuggiolli's everything positively including Livia Giuggiolli's defects, and Colin Firth wants to guide Livia Giuggiolli with Colin Firth's wisdom, delighted as Livia Giuggiolli grows in line with that idea. Colin Firth teaches and supports various things to Livia Giuggiolli, but that can also be done by money. However, Livia Giuggiolli might capitalize on and utilize the Colin Firth's kindness. In this relationship, they open their hearts, don't keep secrets, don't lie, be candid, and express their thoughts directly, so they become cooperative and trustworthy companions.
Misfortune
... They unconsciously cause hostility and conflict with one another.Colin Firth has an attitude, insisting that Colin Firth is superior to Livia Giuggiolli without any basis. In response, Livia Giuggiolli is damn frustrated because Colin Firth is arrogant to Livia Giuggiolli. Livia Giuggiolli grows hostile to Colin Firth, and unconsciously undermine Colin Firth and weakens Colin Firth's power to destroy Colin Firth's bossy attitude and to dominate Colin Firth, trying to make a fundamental change in Colin Firth's mind. With time, one another's thoughts cause an unconscious emotional confrontation, which eventually surfaces and causes intense strife. Besides, both people are drawn by the other person's strong sexual attraction, but at the same time, they can cause a fight between them.
Misfortune
... Colin Firth feels Livia Giuggiolli dislikes Colin Firth, and Livia Giuggiolli sees Colin Firth selfish.Colin Firth feels Livia Giuggiolli, whether true or not, have a feeling that Livia Giuggiolli hates Colin Firth, and on the other hand, Livia Giuggiolli senses Colin Firth as selfish. Besides, one person perceives the other person to be someone with whom the person feels restless or doesn't want to stay together. When the two people try to achieve common goals, the direction of their policy differs with one another, and the relationship is filled with disharmonic and strange sense, so conflicts are apt to arise more easily. Colin Firth tends to become so selfish that Colin Firth brushes away and refuses to deal with Livia Giuggiolli's feelings, and in response, Livia Giuggiolli is worried about them excessively, so those issues are likely to cause a rift in the union. It is difficult for them to maintain this relationship without much effort and patience.
Misfortune
... Relationship of conflict and hatredThe two people are drawn to one another by the sexual attraction between them. However, foreign and discordant energies collide with one another by a feud that one person wants to gain an advantage over the other person. As a result, this relationship will be full of conflict and hatred.
Misfortune
... Each person cannot convey approach but can sense a bad mood.Colin Firth feels sexual attraction to Livia Giuggiolli, but when Colin Firth expresses Colin Firth's some feelings toward Livia Giuggiolli, Livia Giuggiolli somehow cannot understand Colin Firth's true intentions. Meanwhile, even if Livia Giuggiolli aggressively approaches Colin Firth, Colin Firth will not be moved at all. So Colin Firth's emotions and feelings somehow never go together well with Livia Giuggiolli's vitality and aggressiveness. By sensing Colin Firth's bad mood, Livia Giuggiolli may be disgusting and resentful. Over time, both people may develop a feeling of repulsion to the other person, and this relationship may be filled with dissatisfaction, which doesn't at least contribute to last the relationship.
Great misfortune
... They are Bored by a similar partner.Both person's basic humanity and ways to deal with things are superficially similar, and they somehow feel that they resemble one another, having a false feeling that two people are compatible. Besides, they can perceive what the other person is thinking, so they can build a good but superficial relationship right away. However, it is a superficial similarity, not necessarily getting to like one another. With time, the exhilaration has gone, and the feeling of boredom is dominating, which acts negatively on lasting relationships. Even if there are astrological elements in other spheres which makes the two people fall in love or be sexually attracted with one another, the feeling of intimacy like close friends or siblings will dominates and nagetes sexy feelings. Over time, the rivalry about being approved by the people around them will arise unconsciously, and they become competitive by seeing the other person as a rival.
- Relationship of Trust
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Misfortune ... Experience discomfort towards one another's approach for change.
Livia Giuggiolli's energy to invoke changes in the deep part of Livia Giuggiolli's soul tries to transform Colin Firth's young and immature conscience. In response, Colin Firth feels difference in direction about it and refuses to accept the changes that Livia Giuggiolli inspires. On the other hand, in light of Colin Firth's conscience and philosophy, Colin Firth tries to progressively direct Livia Giuggiolli's unfocused energy deep in Livia Giuggiolli's heart. However, Livia Giuggiolli also feels the difference in direction, and firmly refuse Colin Firth's proposal. They will become aware of the disharmony inherent in the relationship.
Misfortune
... Emotional adverse reaction arises
The way of expression of Livia Giuggiolli's emotions and the policy of Colin Firth's planning are facing opposite directions. Livia Giuggiolli is somehow reluctant and refuses to attend to Colin Firth's open invitation to the social events or parties planned by Colin Firth, or Livia Giuggiolli emotionally rejects to the management policy of the organization planned by Colin Firth. Over time, the atmosphere of the relationship is getting worse and worse, so it will be difficult for them to remain on friendly terms and to keep trust with one another steadily.
Misfortune ... Colin Firth denies Livia Giuggiolli's policies
Colin Firth always totally denies based on Colin Firth's conservative values what Livia Giuggiolli positively plans and promotes grounded in Livia Giuggiolli's moral or philosophical way of thinking. However, what each person believes is different in direction, and their policies and values don't match. Colin Firth thinks Livia Giuggiolli as overly optimistic, unwise and flashy, and on the contrary, Livia Giuggiolli sees Colin Firth as unduly pessimistic and serious. If each person can recognize the other person's faults and individuality as differences between one another, he/she can apply it to his/her human growth.
... Experience discomfort towards one another's approach for change.Livia Giuggiolli's energy to invoke changes in the deep part of Livia Giuggiolli's soul tries to transform Colin Firth's young and immature conscience. In response, Colin Firth feels difference in direction about it and refuses to accept the changes that Livia Giuggiolli inspires. On the other hand, in light of Colin Firth's conscience and philosophy, Colin Firth tries to progressively direct Livia Giuggiolli's unfocused energy deep in Livia Giuggiolli's heart. However, Livia Giuggiolli also feels the difference in direction, and firmly refuse Colin Firth's proposal. They will become aware of the disharmony inherent in the relationship.
Misfortune
... Emotional adverse reaction arisesThe way of expression of Livia Giuggiolli's emotions and the policy of Colin Firth's planning are facing opposite directions. Livia Giuggiolli is somehow reluctant and refuses to attend to Colin Firth's open invitation to the social events or parties planned by Colin Firth, or Livia Giuggiolli emotionally rejects to the management policy of the organization planned by Colin Firth. Over time, the atmosphere of the relationship is getting worse and worse, so it will be difficult for them to remain on friendly terms and to keep trust with one another steadily.
Misfortune
... Colin Firth denies Livia Giuggiolli's policiesColin Firth always totally denies based on Colin Firth's conservative values what Livia Giuggiolli positively plans and promotes grounded in Livia Giuggiolli's moral or philosophical way of thinking. However, what each person believes is different in direction, and their policies and values don't match. Colin Firth thinks Livia Giuggiolli as overly optimistic, unwise and flashy, and on the contrary, Livia Giuggiolli sees Colin Firth as unduly pessimistic and serious. If each person can recognize the other person's faults and individuality as differences between one another, he/she can apply it to his/her human growth.
- Fatal and Karmic Relationship
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Very good luck
... Colin Firth is a reliable and fateful father figure to Livia Giuggiolli.
Livia Giuggiolli's self-expression is properly directed and endorsed by Colin Firth's sense of value that Colin Firth believes to be true. Livia Giuggiolli senses Colin Firth as a reliable and authoritative father figure and feels encountering with Colin Firth is fated and inevitable. Meanwhile, Colin Firth is willing to devote to Livia Giuggiolli, and Livia Giuggiolli brings the warmth and ease to Colin Firth. Over time, the two people involved in this relationship will come to realize the importance of one another's existence. This relationship can be a karmic relationship which is meant to be imposed on them so that they born to compensate their past karmas in this world, and acts positively on maintaining long-lasting relationships like marriage and business partnerships.
Good luck ... Livia Giuggiolli induces a fundamental change in Colin Firth's intellect.
By being with Livia Giuggiolli, Colin Firth's logical intelligence is stimulated, and Colin Firth's talking ability based on shallow and superficial thinking is accelerated. On the other hand, Livia Giuggiolli probe the source which causes Colin Firth's thought, exercising power to fundamentally transform Colin Firth's way of thinking, and transferring Colin Firth to a new level of intelligence. Besides, Colin Firth logically explains the deep unconscious drive that Livia Giuggiolli bears, and Livia Giuggiolli can recognize it objectively.
Good luck ... They assume one another to be a reliable partner.
There is a harmonious perception of social responsibility and values between the two people, and these individuals can work toward a goal in a coordinated way. They assume one another a reliable partner and appreciate the other person's effort and patience. Over time, both people strengthen a feeling of trust to one another and build a solid bond between them. This element brings about stability to long-lasting relationships like marital and business partnerships.
Good luck ... Colin Firth makes a fundamental change in Livia Giuggiolli's values.
Livia Giuggiolli tries to properly direct Colin Firth's energy, that causes fundamental changes of the deeper level of human nature, to change into the quality that satisfies Livia Giuggiolli's conservative values. In response, Colin Firth actively accepts Livia Giuggiolli's approach and makes self-transformation in a practical way. On the other hand, Colin Firth attempts to bring about a fundamental restructuring of Livia Giuggiolli's serious views and to add further depth to them with Colin Firth's transformative power. Both people don't respect the other person's feeling, but there is a sense of trust in the relationship.
Misfortune
... Livia Giuggiolli can't help but sees Colin Firth as irresponsible.
Livia Giuggiolli perceives Colin Firth to be fancy, impractical and lacking social skills and encourages Colin Firth to be a more responsible and valuable person. However, as Livia Giuggiolli's ideas essentially differ from Colin Firth's way of thinking, Colin Firth thinks that Colin Firth cannot carry through things in such a way that Livia Giuggiolli recommends. On the other hand, Colin Firth persuades Livia Giuggiolli the importance of imagination, but as Colin Firth's idea is fundamentally opposed to Livia Giuggiolli's, Livia Giuggiolli doesn't accept it. In this relationship, two people recognize the differences between their ways of thinking and the irritation that both people have no control over it.
... Colin Firth is a reliable and fateful father figure to Livia Giuggiolli.Livia Giuggiolli's self-expression is properly directed and endorsed by Colin Firth's sense of value that Colin Firth believes to be true. Livia Giuggiolli senses Colin Firth as a reliable and authoritative father figure and feels encountering with Colin Firth is fated and inevitable. Meanwhile, Colin Firth is willing to devote to Livia Giuggiolli, and Livia Giuggiolli brings the warmth and ease to Colin Firth. Over time, the two people involved in this relationship will come to realize the importance of one another's existence. This relationship can be a karmic relationship which is meant to be imposed on them so that they born to compensate their past karmas in this world, and acts positively on maintaining long-lasting relationships like marriage and business partnerships.
Good luck
... Livia Giuggiolli induces a fundamental change in Colin Firth's intellect.By being with Livia Giuggiolli, Colin Firth's logical intelligence is stimulated, and Colin Firth's talking ability based on shallow and superficial thinking is accelerated. On the other hand, Livia Giuggiolli probe the source which causes Colin Firth's thought, exercising power to fundamentally transform Colin Firth's way of thinking, and transferring Colin Firth to a new level of intelligence. Besides, Colin Firth logically explains the deep unconscious drive that Livia Giuggiolli bears, and Livia Giuggiolli can recognize it objectively.
Good luck
... They assume one another to be a reliable partner.There is a harmonious perception of social responsibility and values between the two people, and these individuals can work toward a goal in a coordinated way. They assume one another a reliable partner and appreciate the other person's effort and patience. Over time, both people strengthen a feeling of trust to one another and build a solid bond between them. This element brings about stability to long-lasting relationships like marital and business partnerships.
Good luck
... Colin Firth makes a fundamental change in Livia Giuggiolli's values.Livia Giuggiolli tries to properly direct Colin Firth's energy, that causes fundamental changes of the deeper level of human nature, to change into the quality that satisfies Livia Giuggiolli's conservative values. In response, Colin Firth actively accepts Livia Giuggiolli's approach and makes self-transformation in a practical way. On the other hand, Colin Firth attempts to bring about a fundamental restructuring of Livia Giuggiolli's serious views and to add further depth to them with Colin Firth's transformative power. Both people don't respect the other person's feeling, but there is a sense of trust in the relationship.
Misfortune
... Livia Giuggiolli can't help but sees Colin Firth as irresponsible.Livia Giuggiolli perceives Colin Firth to be fancy, impractical and lacking social skills and encourages Colin Firth to be a more responsible and valuable person. However, as Livia Giuggiolli's ideas essentially differ from Colin Firth's way of thinking, Colin Firth thinks that Colin Firth cannot carry through things in such a way that Livia Giuggiolli recommends. On the other hand, Colin Firth persuades Livia Giuggiolli the importance of imagination, but as Colin Firth's idea is fundamentally opposed to Livia Giuggiolli's, Livia Giuggiolli doesn't accept it. In this relationship, two people recognize the differences between their ways of thinking and the irritation that both people have no control over it.